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	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Wind Turbines in NY State by Chris L</title>
		<link>http://newyorkoutdoors.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/wind-turbines-in-ny-state/#comment-2877</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you wondering about The Vibroaccoustic disease, here is an article I did find: http://www.wind-watch.org/news/?p=5115</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you wondering about The Vibroaccoustic disease, here is an article I did find: <a href="http://www.wind-watch.org/news/?p=5115" rel="nofollow">http://www.wind-watch.org/news/?p=5115</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Wind Turbines in NY State by Wayne M.</title>
		<link>http://newyorkoutdoors.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/wind-turbines-in-ny-state/#comment-2876</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all want to believe that alternative energy sources will allow us to avoid changing our comfortable lifestyles. So we are hopeful that the promises made by investment bankers and foreign developers are true. I'm sorry to have to break it to you: they are in business to make a profit. They could care less about the environment. As Gerry pointed out, the current energy policy that makes industrial wind 'farm' development so profitable was cooked up by Vice President Cheney (not exactly a champion of the environment) and Ken Lay, while he was head of Enron and before he became a convicted felon. Enron owned, and still owns, FPL that was the largest owner of industrial wind installations. The policy they secretly negotiated and is still in place DID NOT include any requirement that these things actually reduce our carbon footprint. And they don't.

It's one thing to hike within sight of these structures the size of a forty story building (and getting bigger every year). It's another to live next to one. The cluster of human health problems associated with them is now called Vibro-Acoustic Disease and has caused more than one family to abandon their home, unable to sell it and unable to live in it. 

Calling them 'farms' is an insult to those of use who live on farms and consider ourselves stewards of the land. Each 'farm' consists of miles and miles of forty foot wide construction roads slashed through the woods and fields. These things are huge industrial structures. And while you might find them pleasing to look at, they undeniably transform a pastoral landscape into an industrialized food chopper ready to mince raptors, bats, and migrating birds.

We rural areas already supply you urban folks with raw materials, most of your energy, and quiet places for you to vacation. We've given enough. If you want to avoid conservation or power plants in your neighborhood, fine, but don't ruin what little peace and quiet we have left in the vain hope that you will somehow solve the energy crisis and global warming by filling the pockets of the fat cats. It aint' gonna happen.

And in the meantime, the problem they are supposed to be solving gets worse and worse, while the money available to address the problem gets wasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all want to believe that alternative energy sources will allow us to avoid changing our comfortable lifestyles. So we are hopeful that the promises made by investment bankers and foreign developers are true. I&#8217;m sorry to have to break it to you: they are in business to make a profit. They could care less about the environment. As Gerry pointed out, the current energy policy that makes industrial wind &#8216;farm&#8217; development so profitable was cooked up by Vice President Cheney (not exactly a champion of the environment) and Ken Lay, while he was head of Enron and before he became a convicted felon. Enron owned, and still owns, FPL that was the largest owner of industrial wind installations. The policy they secretly negotiated and is still in place DID NOT include any requirement that these things actually reduce our carbon footprint. And they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to hike within sight of these structures the size of a forty story building (and getting bigger every year). It&#8217;s another to live next to one. The cluster of human health problems associated with them is now called Vibro-Acoustic Disease and has caused more than one family to abandon their home, unable to sell it and unable to live in it. </p>
<p>Calling them &#8216;farms&#8217; is an insult to those of use who live on farms and consider ourselves stewards of the land. Each &#8216;farm&#8217; consists of miles and miles of forty foot wide construction roads slashed through the woods and fields. These things are huge industrial structures. And while you might find them pleasing to look at, they undeniably transform a pastoral landscape into an industrialized food chopper ready to mince raptors, bats, and migrating birds.</p>
<p>We rural areas already supply you urban folks with raw materials, most of your energy, and quiet places for you to vacation. We&#8217;ve given enough. If you want to avoid conservation or power plants in your neighborhood, fine, but don&#8217;t ruin what little peace and quiet we have left in the vain hope that you will somehow solve the energy crisis and global warming by filling the pockets of the fat cats. It aint&#8217; gonna happen.</p>
<p>And in the meantime, the problem they are supposed to be solving gets worse and worse, while the money available to address the problem gets wasted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New York Wild by scienceguy288</title>
		<link>http://newyorkoutdoors.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/new-york-wild/#comment-2875</link>
		<dc:creator>scienceguy288</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.  Very cool cams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.  Very cool cams.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hiking Blogs by Loren</title>
		<link>http://newyorkoutdoors.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/hiking-blogs/#comment-2874</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted for ya!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Wind Turbines in NY State by gerry duffy</title>
		<link>http://newyorkoutdoors.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/wind-turbines-in-ny-state/#comment-2873</link>
		<dc:creator>gerry duffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple  72% of wind turbine  construction is  by the  tax payer.  They  ruin  property, kill birds, encourage  the  burning  of  dirty  coal,  buy there  selling of  the  green credits.  This  scam is  another  improved  Enron and our  politicians  have  been  bought.     It is time  to  go  solar and get off  the  grid so we can not  be  controlled by  cooperations  who are  selling  this under  the  green  banner.   For  the  cost of a few  turbines  we can but in  met nae  digester's.  How  aboout  pellet plants  to  convert  lawn waste and other materials  in  to  fuel  to heat our  homes.  What is sold  under  the   Green banner is about green  money not  about  the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple  72% of wind turbine  construction is  by the  tax payer.  They  ruin  property, kill birds, encourage  the  burning  of  dirty  coal,  buy there  selling of  the  green credits.  This  scam is  another  improved  Enron and our  politicians  have  been  bought.     It is time  to  go  solar and get off  the  grid so we can not  be  controlled by  cooperations  who are  selling  this under  the  green  banner.   For  the  cost of a few  turbines  we can but in  met nae  digester&#8217;s.  How  aboout  pellet plants  to  convert  lawn waste and other materials  in  to  fuel  to heat our  homes.  What is sold  under  the   Green banner is about green  money not  about  the planet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wind Turbines in NY State by Stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use to live in California where wind farms are very common. Personally, I find them very beautiful - they were even featured on post cards, so I don't understand why they would lower property value. I wouldn't mind having them in my back yard.

As for the health problems - I'm not sure what Pat is talking about. I also would also like to compare the health impact with that of other power sources.

I know in CA they would have to conduct studies about bird flight patters before the turbines could go up. Usually it was just a matter of placing them at a height over the typical altitude of regional birds. I had never personally seen a bird hit a wind turbine, nor seen any dead birds at the base of one - so I would guess the method works at least to some degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use to live in California where wind farms are very common. Personally, I find them very beautiful - they were even featured on post cards, so I don&#8217;t understand why they would lower property value. I wouldn&#8217;t mind having them in my back yard.</p>
<p>As for the health problems - I&#8217;m not sure what Pat is talking about. I also would also like to compare the health impact with that of other power sources.</p>
<p>I know in CA they would have to conduct studies about bird flight patters before the turbines could go up. Usually it was just a matter of placing them at a height over the typical altitude of regional birds. I had never personally seen a bird hit a wind turbine, nor seen any dead birds at the base of one - so I would guess the method works at least to some degree.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Get Your Virtual Waterfall Fix by scienceguy288</title>
		<link>http://newyorkoutdoors.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/get-your-virtual-waterfall-fix/#comment-2871</link>
		<dc:creator>scienceguy288</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a lovely park.  I've gone there many times in my youth...*falls into retrospective reverie*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a lovely park.  I&#8217;ve gone there many times in my youth&#8230;*falls into retrospective reverie*</p>
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		<title>Comment on Staycations - Stay What? by karenbryan</title>
		<link>http://newyorkoutdoors.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/staycations-stay-what/#comment-2870</link>
		<dc:creator>karenbryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about the advantages of staying home for a vacation (or holiday as we say in the UK) last June. I too am amazed by how many people dismiss what is on their doorstep.

http://www.europealacarte.co.uk/blog/2007/06/30/7-reasons-to-take-a-summer-holiday-at-home/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about the advantages of staying home for a vacation (or holiday as we say in the UK) last June. I too am amazed by how many people dismiss what is on their doorstep.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.europealacarte.co.uk/blog/2007/06/30/7-reasons-to-take-a-summer-holiday-at-home/" rel="nofollow">http://www.europealacarte.co.uk/blog/2007/06/30/7-reasons-to-take-a-summer-holiday-at-home/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Best Campfire Chef Contest in New York City? by Loren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice to have such a desert on a hike!</description>
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		<title>Comment on How to Carve a Woodspirit in a Hiking Stick by scienceguy288</title>
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		<dc:creator>scienceguy288</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That looks super cool.  I will definitely try this in my free time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That looks super cool.  I will definitely try this in my free time.</p>
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